Re: How to differentiate real time from my mind's projected reality?
Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 12:32 am
Actually, it has recently been suggested that thermodynamics may explain gravity. The objective world exists and is not an illusion. Illusions arise in the minds of people and are products of misrepresentation in perception. The universe is very real and physical. Even the vacuum of space is physical and contains 'stuff'. See how illusory a saw is if you use it to cut your arm. How discreet are its particles? 
Consciousness is the epiphenomenon of the brain and its interacting parts. Humunculi do not haunt the brain. The self is merely a sense - one that you can and will lose permanently one day. What remains to be explained is how consciousness emerges in the brain. You think you will still have that consciousness of yours when you die? If living people can be unconscious for long periods of time, how on earth can the decease have a chance at consciousness let alone a sense of self?
For the last time I will explain. All experience is in the physical brain. The phase is a manifestation of the brain using the same reality-making mechanisms that helps to create a coherent perception of the waking world. The phase world is only illusory in the sense that it appears to show things that exist in reality (i.e. it appears objective), but all is made up (as the brain is free to create any reality it likes in that state) and inconsistent with external world perception.
The phase world is only real in the sense that it is eventuated by electrical activity in the brain (physical in that sense) apart from being real to us in every way in terms of perception. For example, in the phase you may walk, run and fly - but in reality your body is not moving and you are not really going anywhere. In this sense, your perception in the phase can be said to be illusory. The same goes for dreams. Just because you are making love to a celebrity in a dream doesn't mean that you are actually doing it. What you are doing is actively thinking about it which in that state, it can almost seem like you are really doing it. That's an illusion, Jeff. An illusion is only a misinterpretation of what is going on - bearing in mind that what is going on is real in its own way. Don't mistake illusion with unreality. It's not rocket science, really - although mumbo-jumboers make it seem so.
Even dreams can reflect the fact that we are nothing at all. Remember those times when you lose your identity and you think you are someone else in a dream? Not to mention the loss of memory or/and the false ones. We are one big zero open to suggestions, my friend. The brain can reprogram itself many times over. We are only highly sophisticated supercomputers. There are no such things as ghosts.
Like LoLmart, you have the wrong logic about the real world and applying the concept of illusions in the right context, Jeff.
@ NOVA:
I don't agree with everything I do or say either.
This reminds me of something. Someone once theorised that conflict promotes awareness. Another said we could have evolved to argue and not to be rational... hmmm.
breadbassed:
In my opinion it is inevitably mathematical. Not sure about describing it as an entity although it could be part of a larger entity - not a God - more in terms of us possibly living inside a large animal in a larger universe... LOL! How awesome that would be!! I'm with you on the mind being zero and the zero is where we come from and to the zero we shall go. The energy in the universe also adds up to zero. Zero is all we are and in zero anything can be.

Consciousness is the epiphenomenon of the brain and its interacting parts. Humunculi do not haunt the brain. The self is merely a sense - one that you can and will lose permanently one day. What remains to be explained is how consciousness emerges in the brain. You think you will still have that consciousness of yours when you die? If living people can be unconscious for long periods of time, how on earth can the decease have a chance at consciousness let alone a sense of self?
For the last time I will explain. All experience is in the physical brain. The phase is a manifestation of the brain using the same reality-making mechanisms that helps to create a coherent perception of the waking world. The phase world is only illusory in the sense that it appears to show things that exist in reality (i.e. it appears objective), but all is made up (as the brain is free to create any reality it likes in that state) and inconsistent with external world perception.
The phase world is only real in the sense that it is eventuated by electrical activity in the brain (physical in that sense) apart from being real to us in every way in terms of perception. For example, in the phase you may walk, run and fly - but in reality your body is not moving and you are not really going anywhere. In this sense, your perception in the phase can be said to be illusory. The same goes for dreams. Just because you are making love to a celebrity in a dream doesn't mean that you are actually doing it. What you are doing is actively thinking about it which in that state, it can almost seem like you are really doing it. That's an illusion, Jeff. An illusion is only a misinterpretation of what is going on - bearing in mind that what is going on is real in its own way. Don't mistake illusion with unreality. It's not rocket science, really - although mumbo-jumboers make it seem so.
Even dreams can reflect the fact that we are nothing at all. Remember those times when you lose your identity and you think you are someone else in a dream? Not to mention the loss of memory or/and the false ones. We are one big zero open to suggestions, my friend. The brain can reprogram itself many times over. We are only highly sophisticated supercomputers. There are no such things as ghosts.
Like LoLmart, you have the wrong logic about the real world and applying the concept of illusions in the right context, Jeff.
@ NOVA:
I don't agree with everything I do or say either.

This reminds me of something. Someone once theorised that conflict promotes awareness. Another said we could have evolved to argue and not to be rational... hmmm.
breadbassed:
In my opinion it is inevitably mathematical. Not sure about describing it as an entity although it could be part of a larger entity - not a God - more in terms of us possibly living inside a large animal in a larger universe... LOL! How awesome that would be!! I'm with you on the mind being zero and the zero is where we come from and to the zero we shall go. The energy in the universe also adds up to zero. Zero is all we are and in zero anything can be.
