Lucid Dreaming and OBE Discussion Board

You have to accept that 15-30% of all phases will be not perfect. I think, sometimes there is a lot of natural barriers to make it perfect. On the other hand, approximately 30% of such problems are simulated. 

I find it hard to enter the Phase with my ear plugs on. Announce your results.

Oh cool, another advantage to using the plugs! Thanks for your experiment.

I had another Phase experience today through Conscious dreaming.

In my dream I was walking through the park when suddenly the gravity moved to a 45° degree angle.

I got conscious immediately and started with deepening techniques.

This time, I tried to use the techniques along with a strong intention to see the results in my vision.
I felt a shift in my perception of the space and everything went clearer.

Then, I decided to perform another experiment.
This time, I player around with invisible/imaginary forces.

I put my hands in front of my face and tried to feel a horizontal bar in my hands. After few seconds, I was able to feel the invisible bar and lift myself in the air.

Then I stood on a invisible block and noticed that there was a guy recording me on his cellphone.

I FELT LIKE A MIME.

I asked him to let me watch the video. Nothing on the video had sense and at the end I arrived to a new location.

I was about to ask a question to a person next to me and suddenly his face blurred. The phase faded out and I started to hear my sister's voice.

She awakened me to ask me something about her computer. 

Oh noooo!!!  I'm sure u explained the #1 rule to her after that rude awakening....NEVER WAKE ME FROM SLEEPING!!

JorgeLTE, interesting Phase experience.  It's interesting to observe the behaviour of Phase inhabitants and you can't help but wonder how, why and if they represent portions of our subconscious mind or if they are parts of our personality.  I wonder if deep down you wished that you could film yourself... 

I once encountered people with blurry faces walking about outside a supermarket at night. Everything was highly defined apart from their faces.  Then a faceless woman was coming towards me with a trolley.  It looked like she wanted to run me over so I picked up her trolley, hurled it up in the air and it vanished.  Suddenly, the woman and the rest of the people seemed to panic and fled.  I heard screams too.  It made me wonder if I'd like to be in a position of power like that.  By the way, I forgot to mention, that happened in the Phase! 

That, of course, would never happen in reality.  I'd barely be able to hurl a trolley in such a manner and I doubt that people would panic that way.  Most likely, I'd be arrested or get myself beaten up...possibly even killed. 

I guess the best thing to do if we wish to ask a Phase inhabitant something is to remember to perform maintaining techniques - rub our hands as we speak to them or something.  If their faces are blurry, then perhaps it's a good idea to touch them and feel their facial features or build their faces with our minds.

Well done with the vision! 

I wondered where you went and I'm looking forward to reading your phases!!

JorgeLTE wrote: I will use the deferred method and I'm expecting to have a lucid dream, becuase last 4 phase experiences started through dream consciousness.

I tend to use the deferred method too but lately I've been entering the phase via dream consciousness.  It's all the same anyway. 

The deferred method just seems to increase your chances of encountering a simulated bedroom replica upon separation.  I guess your mind is trying to make sense of things with its expectations.

On the other hand, separating from the body can lead to other strange locations and the room replica may be skipped.  You can also behold hypnagogic images and pick a scenario to jump into.

You either have the dream-induced lucid dream (DILD), or the wake-induced lucid dream (WILD).  It's the phase entered in different ways. 

Entering the phase in the morning upon waking seems to be the easiest way for the majority.

Was it only one single attempt (but successful)?

JorgeLTE wrote:
I awakened without movement and eyes closed. Lately, I haven't used any specific technique for entering the phase. I just use my instinct to get into the state. So I started to try to feel something with my hands.

There'll be a lot of stuff about this in the new SOBT, that is being translated now.

Stinkin dog!  If he hadn't distracted you then you would've probably had a longer phase and also you could have gone for another separation.  Oh well, sounds like you're doing real well.  Keep going

I think in the experiment with the pain,should be an expectation of pain,and more than that a desire to feel pain,even after awakening!!
Maybe this will work better!!

wiii

One of our research departments is performing tests with cutting a part of the body in the phase. We try to figure out how a separated part feels. Maybe you can try this next time

Hmmm...I wonder about something...

If we open our stomachs and pull out our intestines in the phase, and get a character to hold them and stretch them out at a distance from us, and then get the character to give the tip a squeeze...would we feel the intestines being squeezed in the body or out of the body?

Summerlander wrote: Hmmm...I wonder about something...

If we open our stomachs and pull out our intestines in the phase, and get a character to hold them and stretch them out at a distance from us, and then get the character to give the tip a squeeze...would we feel the intestines being squeezed in the body or out of the body?

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Awww...I can only imagine how beautiful the moon looked! 

Congrats, JorgeLTE!  Well done!!  Nothing like an enjoyable phase. 

This is my first stable and deep phase since August.

YAY!!

I love the moon. So mystical to me and it's so beautiful here I can't imagine how beautiful it must be in the phase!

I think the more you reinforce the novel reality, the more stable it will become.  I really like this idea!  Keep us posted about this one! 

That's a really cool idea!! I can't wait to hear what you report!

Cool.  I'd probably have more phase experiences in the morning if I use ear plugs.  The cawing of birds sometimes put me off.  I might consider this.