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Ufo's and aliens? Real or not?

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 8:10 am
by 12padams
Talk about all your alien encounters or even your alien beliefs here :)

I'll tell you about my encounter once we get a few votes up :)
If you had an encounter make sure to give some details (unless it's private)!

Re: Ufo's and aliens? Real or not?

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 1:34 pm
by breadbassed
My girlfriend has been having weird 'dreams' lately where she says that aliens are contacting her and giving her information. She says they are more real than normal dreams and they seem somewhat different.

Her uncle also claims to see UFO's all the time near his house, whether or not these are just military type undefined crafts i don't know.

A lot of things i have read, heard, pondered, point towards the fact they are real.  Its ignorant to think we are the only beings in the universe.  The only question is whether or not any other beings have made contact with us or not.

i recently watched this, its interesting. Whether he is a con man, a messenger, or just a crazy man, i don't know, but its interesting none the less.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1q2Du_DkKbo

Re: Ufo's and aliens? Real or not?

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 8:05 am
by 12padams
Ah great so at least I'm not fully alone here. And it's great to know that other communicate with aliens as well. Someone close to me communicates with the reptilian alien species and one day I'm gunna meet them.

I already know aliens exist as I have had an encounter with something that can't be explained away (and no this was not a simple false awakening or sleep paralysis because it happened while driving and fully conscious). Once I get time on my desktop computer I'll post a visual demonstration I created of what I saw in the sky that night at around 8pm most likely in 2004.

Re: Ufo's and aliens? Real or not?

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 2:05 pm
by Summerlander
Look at this image by the Hubble Space Telescope:

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It's phenomenal.  What we are seeing here is evidence of gazillions of galaxies like our own in the universe.  One can't even begin to fathom the enormity of space-time it takes to enclose, in the least, the visible and known universe.  What you see in that picture is what is seen in every direction you look in space.  Just galaxies and more galaxies and quasars and many forms of radiation everywhere.

From a human perspective, you have to ask this question:  What is it all for? - And then you realise... what are we?  Complex arrangements of atoms with the most basic being carbon.  And carbon isn't just found here on Earth.  It is found in the Venusian and Martian atmospheres and elsewhere in the universe.  In fact, complex arrangements of atoms form from clouds of dust in space.

We are stardust and I am pretty sure that other complex arrangements have formed elsewhere in the universe.  It is almost a certainty (and we have to say "almost" until we have definitive proof) that we are not the only intelligent species in the universe.  To suggest that we are alone is ludicrous when you behold the vastness of space and what it includes.

In saying all of this, I cannot say that aliens have visited our planet with absolute certainty.  Sure, we hear the stories about UFOs and alien abduction and even speculations about Area 51.  But, so far - and it has to be said (!), here on Earth, the evidence that stands out is the following...

The majority of alien abductions can be easily explained by individuals unknowingly entering the phase state - and people get hung up in all sorts of ways when they have intense hallucinatory experiences.  If it is not angels, demons or even Santa Claus, it will be alien beings.  Then, you get the percentage of stories that are hoaxes.  Because of the latter you begin to wonder if alien beings have made contact with us at all...

UFOs do exist.  There is no doubt about that.  I've seen two of them (a glowing orange globe on one occasion and then a dark sphere that hovered over my house when I lived in Isleworth).  Shortly after my sightings, the local paper reported that others in the area had also spotted strange objects and lights in the sky. 

My second sighting was quite comical because at the time I happened to be having a discussion about UFOs with my brother-in-law in my back garden... 

He was saying that UFOs don't exist because he'd never seen one before.  I told him "actually, Gary, if you see something in the sky that you cannot identify, then you are observing an unidentified flying object... a UFO..." - He continued to be stubborn in saying that he could identify anything he saw in that sky.  At that precise moment, a strange dark sphere floated silently over the house like a black marble in the sky (the object was perhaps 1500ft above ground).

As the object continued silently towards the horizon before disappearing, I turned to my brother-in-law and said, "So, Gary, what on earth is that?"  It certainly did not look like a balloon that I know of.  It was kind of eerie.  Then again, the fact that the sighting coincided with our related discussion probably helped to give the situation that kind of air.

Do I tell people I saw a strange spacecraft from another world?  No.  It could have been a type of meteorological balloon that I don't know about.  A bit like this one:

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Only it was blacker, perfectly spherical and nothing was suspended from it like the picture above.  It was odd.  Another explanation is that the military was testing aircraft (it could even have been a top secret mission or experiment of some sort over our skies).  There really is no reason to jump on the "alien spaceship" bandwagon just yet.

The only aliens I have seen were these, and, at the time, I knew that I was in the phase.  Never the less, it was quite unexpected:

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Some time ago, I had also met these little creatures in the phase.  I call them "quasimodos".  At the time, I wasn't feeling well (but felt great in the phase).  I regarded the quasimodos as being representative of pain, like a psychological symbol reminding me that I was supposed to be in pain and should accept it (or try and be friends with it), and hence why the little mites kept following my healthy dream body in the phase world:

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On the link that you provided, breadbassed.  It is absolute quackery.  For starters, I can guarantee you that the sun will not go into the red giant phase by the end of this year.  It's preposterous to assume so.  On crop circles, I think it is worth watching this Discovery Channel documentary:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oO6WvTxiN0

And remember Doug Bower and Dave Chorley:
http://science.howstuffworks.com/scienc ... ircle4.htm

There is also a fairly convincing footage of an alien being:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loDZCpN- ... re=related

Re: Ufo's and aliens? Real or not?

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 8:06 am
by breadbassed
Summerlander wrote:

On the link that you provided, breadbassed.  It is absolute quackery.  For starters, I can guarantee you that the sun will not go into the red giant phase by the end of this year.  It's preposterous to assume so.
I agree really, i definitely keep a skeptical mind, it makes me wonder how much of his 'contact' is with aliens and how much of it is with his bank manager! This guy charges hundreds of dollars for seminars and such, really puts his work into perspective!

Awesome drawings by the way summerlander!

It's also good to get both of your perspectives on UFOs and alien contact. I think someone who is familiar with the phase has a better understanding of whether they have been in contact with aliens or not, than someone who doesn't know anything about SP or similar.

I'd like to say i've seen something, or experienced it, maybe one day!

Re: Ufo's and aliens? Real or not?

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 7:35 pm
by Astralnaut
i had a dream where i was talking with alien and he told me where he was from, but i can't remember now. i also remember a little piece of abduction in one dream. I had lots of dreams with UFOs

Re: Ufo's and aliens? Real or not?

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 9:25 pm
by 12padams
Just a note... Did you notice one of the poll voters have said they are an alien? Whether its a joke or the real thing (it's really possible) we must be accepting of them and not scare them of in anyway. So far nobody here thinks aliens definitly don't exist so we are at least open to the posibilities.

When it comes to believing more than the news reports compiled on youtube and other video streaming sites, you can do a bit of research about our extra-terrestrial/dimensional beings. There are in fact unedited photos from government satellites which contain UFOs clear as day.

There's a lot of documentaries you can watch from actual folks who isn't just some random people who may have been on drugs or have no credentials at all. These folks have actual reputations to lose, some Vets and retired folks, a couple from time to time who are still active duty. Former President Jimmy Carter and even some astronauts each share their stories. Said documentaries as below...

"I Know What I Saw" - collection of UFO witnesses (some being military generals, some being pilots). This was first aired on 2009, it was on H2 (secondary History Channel) today, a week ago there was another Reptoid documentary from witnesses throughout the country on Monster Quest. Another documentary to keep your eye out for: "Area 51 Declassified".

Statement from a French Air Force Captain - "The unknown craft was 1000 feet wide, it became transparent and disappeared 10 - 20 seconds. We realized we just witnessed something that we didn't know anything about." Even Larry King Live on CNN has had an interview on an UFO Coverup in Texas.

There's a radar reports covering many UFO trails and sightings, there's even Satellite (in orbit) footage of UFOs from time to time, NASA had some covered publicly and then quickly changed it to the Private channel which is classified for government officials and NASA with Top Secret clearance. 2007 - CNES (French equivalent to NASA) made a bunch of files and reports of UFO information available for the public.

COMETA - a 3 year military study on UFOs and Aliens and even published a book about their studies.  There's another term to look into called the "Extra-Terrestrial Hypothesis". The French have all of their research out in the open and should have some translated documents as well to look into. If you still don't believe in any of that, there are still History Channel, BBC, and Discovery Channel with documentaries you can watch yourself as well.

Re: Ufo's and aliens? Real or not?

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 10:45 pm
by Summerlander
To me, people's credentials mean nothing at all when it comes to possibly exaggerating or making up stories... just like a priest who is a saint in the eyes of a community and yet a monster when he rapes little innocent children behind closed doors.

Jimmy Carter's case is interesting, but how much of a role do these high-powered people play in disinformation and subliminal communication.  You really can't take anyone at face value just because they have achieved great things in life any more than you can trust an ex-burglar who is a social worker helping people out and calls it "redeeming".

By the way, what are the odds of that poll voter being an alien and the odds of he or she just being a prankster? ;D

Re: Ufo's and aliens? Real or not?

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 11:24 pm
by Jeff
On the Wikileaks video someone wrote in the comments section:

"How the fuck it managed to get its giant head through the neck of the sweater is the real mystery here lol" ......LMAO!  ;D

But seriously,I agree that they could be 'real' in general. The physical universe is so vast that intelligent life must surely exist.I think there's a mathematical formula for calculating the high probability for extraterrestrial life.."the Drake Equation" or something.

But *if* we currently understand the physics of the universe (and it's requirements for life) then travel between the earth and other habitable regions are too vast to cross.The distances would require too much energy to accelerate a material object across in a reasonable time frame -at least for something of known material.

Thats a good reason to believe that if they do exist -and do visit us- then they are likely to be 'multidimensional'.This sounds weird but the multiverse idea is really pretty mainstream now.And if the universe is mental ,or has a mental aspect to it (we're conscious aren't we?),then it might not be surprising at all if the phase and aliens were to be related in some way.

Personally,I once saw a large orange light zig zagging abruptly at very high speeds and very low through the sky on a foggy night.A 'UFO' by definition.It was strange but I can't rule out that it could have been a spot light or something. I just don't know. The UFO-alien thing is a battle that I honestly don't care to get into really.If people have a good argument for them or have experienced some personal evidence then I'm definitely interested in it though....

Now the whole Norway spiral thing...thats pretty strange stuff to me. Alot of speculation about it. 'HAARP'...'Aliens'...and the official story 'a missile 'failure'. Really I don't find any of these convincing.I'm willing to say "I just don't know".  :-\



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsiSirIq ... re=related

Re: Ufo's and aliens? Real or not?

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 11:34 pm
by Jeff
I just read a great book called 'Fringe-ology' .It mentions a town in Texas called Stephenville that had a mass sighting:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqdX-iwk5Mc

Re: Ufo's and aliens? Real or not?

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:32 pm
by breadbassed
Jeff wrote: On the Wikileaks video someone wrote in the comments section:

"How the fuck it managed to get its giant head through the neck of the sweater is the real mystery here lol" ......LMAO!  ;D
Yeh i saw that comment too, but then i thought, maybe it was a zip up? lol

It is an interesting video though, very life like. Its either a well made CGI, or its real.
But *if* we currently understand the physics of the universe (and it's requirements for life) then travel between the earth and other habitable regions are too vast to cross.The distances would require too much energy to accelerate a material object across in a reasonable time frame -at least for something of known material.

Thats a good reason to believe that if they do exist -and do visit us- then they are likely to be 'multidimensional'.This sounds weird but the multiverse idea is really pretty mainstream now.And if the universe is mental ,or has a mental aspect to it (we're conscious aren't we?),then it might not be surprising at all if the phase and aliens were to be related in some way.
Einstein's wormhole theory could be an explanation of how aliens from a distant planet could reach us physically, effectively bending space/time, so the distance between two points is dramatically reduced.

Though if they are highly advanced beings, i expect they would have good knowledge of the phase and how it works. So i don't see any reason why they wouldn't be able to contact us on a mental level as well, through dreams or telepathy etc.


Here's a fascinating (if not a little scary towards the end) video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvx0dbiv ... ntext-vrec

Re: Ufo's and aliens? Real or not?

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:44 pm
by Jeff
"Though if they are highly advanced beings, i expect they would have good knowledge of the phase and how it works. So i don't see any reason why they wouldn't be able to contact us on a mental level as well, through dreams or telepathy etc."


Great point!

Re: Ufo's and aliens? Real or not?

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 10:40 am
by breadbassed
Saw a UFO for the first time yesterday. My girlfriend and myself went over to her uncles place, as he says he sees them often. What we saw was definitely unidentifiable and unexplainable.

It was essentially a ball of light that flew over head. It was about the height of a low flying airplane, although it made no sound at all.  The area is near an airport, so many airplanes fly over, and are easily identifiable by the flashing lights and the loud noise. This ball of light had neither. It was also moving quite fast compared to the airplanes.

I have ruled out any normal explanations of this sighting. It wasn't a lantern (moving too quickly), wasn't a plane (no sounds, no flashing lights, not even a visible structure as such) and it wasn't a satellite (far too low), so im stuck. 

The fact that the airspace was very busy with airplanes you would think that any other flying vehicles would be heavily restricted, and not be able to fly nearby.  If it was some form of flying vehicle that the government are testing and we are currently unaware of, they surely would choose somewhere with less air traffic.  So its fair to assume this vehicle/being or whatever it was, pays no attention to our rules.

If anyone else has any ideas would be good to hear them.