Lucid Dreaming and OBE Discussion Board

Hi there, so Raduga says to use any of the techniques listed in the technique collection in The Phase for the Direct Method.

Which seems a bit weird to me because a lot of them are mentally quite "active", like take the Imagined Movement ones, Technique of Forced Listening-In for example or literally "straining your brain"/"body" (which has quite interesting sensations but definitely doesnt get my mind floating.)

I feel like that would take quite a bit of mental effort to do, so how would you lose consciousness when doing that? They're supposed to be aimed at inducing the floating state of mind like Raduga says but I can't imagine ever getting into that state without the most passive techniques on there like just observing images?

Am I maybe missing something, is there something else I can do that would allow me to enter the floating state of mind other than being relaxed and comfortable while doing them?

(Actually I might do an experiment where I mute my internal monologue as to not give my mind a clear sequence of thoughts that it could "hold onto")

So actually quick reply on this, Im not going for the silencing inner monologue. Read some things on other forums and seems best to just let it do whatever.

I still think anything other than observing images would be way too mentally active to get lapses in consciousness though.