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Hello Michael,

Since I begin to try lucid dreams (6 months ago), I managed to realize 2/3 DILD (poor and short, and hazardous) and 4/5 WILD (clear and longer, but hard to acheive). As it was very very hard, so when I read your books and specialy "Indirect techniques", I thought that they are the solution.

I just would like that you valid my procedure just in case I missunderstand something.

So, I chose the indirect techniques sequence :

1. Straining the brain (when I began to read your book, and especially indirect techniques chapter, it was just before sleeping and I asked myself about how to perform this "strange" technique. And I wake up in the middle of the night and still asking myself about this technique ... and immediatly I felt a strange sensation in my head and vibrations. So I keep it in first ;-).
2. Observing Images (When I go to bed, I use to fall asleep _very_ quickly. And I have a lot of images coming. Sometimes, when I am tired, while talking to my girlfriend in the bed, I have a lot of images coming ... it's like a flood !). So I put this tech in second place.
3. Listening in
4. Phantom Wiggling (when I train this technique I do not fell an other hand, is it normal ?)
5. Rotation

Yesterday, I train this sequence 5 times per day in order to memorize it.

During the night : Usually, I used to wake up naturally after 5h/6h of sleep, but now my "problem" is since few weeks, we have a brand new baby at home ;-) ... he wakes us up after 4 hours of sleep maximum, so after the night milk, I return to bed, training the indirect techniques sequence I chose during 2 minutes and telling myself "I want to wake up at the end of the next sleep cycle in 1h30 and stay motionless for my exercices". I start with "Force Falling asleep" with separation attemp then 4 cycles of indirect techniques sequence.

So I tried this morning, I woke up after the mi-night-milk-bottle, and applied the techniques. I realize that 1) It's pretty hard to stay motionless when I wake up (but I continued even if I had move ... just for training) and 2) I was not able to do the 4 cycles : I stayed too long on each techniques and gave up at the 2nd cycle twice. I know that this is one of the main mistakes, so I will use more determination.

Is my procedure right ? Any mistake ? Things to add ?

Thank you,

V.

1 - never give up if you move before techniques.
2 - Try each technique for a few seconds. If there is no performing (even slightest) - change it immediately(!) to another. If you get any performing, you are almost in the phase. Just make amplify sensations and separate from the body
3 - your attempts aren't ideal but even in this case you will get result
4 - be more aggressive
5 - wait for the new good video about the indirect techniques on the site

Thank you Michael for your response.

Just a few questions:

Michael Raduga wrote: 3 - your attempts aren't ideal but even in this case you will get result

?? You mean during the night ? The fact that I do not follow the "deferred method" ?

Michael Raduga wrote: 5 - wait for the new good video about the indirect techniques on the site

Oh, ok ! What are the differences with those in videos or described in your book ? When to you plan to release it ?

Thank you,

V.

I mean all details.

Usually in video more details and right accents. It will be avaible in first decade of february

Michael Raduga wrote: I mean all details.

and what can I do to improve it ? I read again the chapter "Indirect techniques" and I can't see the mistake(s) ...

Thank you,

Vincent

sorry, I didn't mean that everything is incorrect. You have some mistakes. Fro example, only 2 cycles and you cannot get the phase even if you feel vibrations after straining the brain technique (after awakenings it means the phase)