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How real the phase is!
Today in the afternoon I woke up by a phone call and again slept.
After 5 - 10 minutes I heard a sound of mobile ring for 1 - 2 seconds, it was so real that I opened my eyes and thought about how real the sound was. And I was just thinking and did not do anything. Actually when I opened my eyes I was actually in the phase and my physical eyes were still closed but I recognized that after some time when I was awake. If I would have acted immediately then it was a great chance.

The first step is understanding these situation. The second step is using them properly next time. We're waiting)

I had a Phase at 5.45 pm.
I slept for about 45 minutes with intention and afrer waking up, started Indirect tech cycles
Cycle-1
a)Visualizing hands_nothing
b)Breathing conscious_nothing
c)Phantom wiggling_nothing
Cycle-2
a)Visualizing hands_started working_felt sensations and vision but forgot to separate and sensation gone
b)Breathing conscious_nothing
c)Phantom wiggling_nothing_then I felt I was too much awake so
d)Forced falling asleep_worked but forgot to separate
Cycle-3
a)Visualizing hands_sensations,vision but could not separate then again continued cycling, 3 more cycles. It was more than 1 minute but I decided to cycle until separation and 5 to 6 times Visualizing hands technique worked and again forgot to separate each time. And suddenly I found myself walking in the room! Approximately 5 to 6 seconds and as I started to thinking am walking or lying in the bed... the Phase gone and found myself lying on the bed. Then I woke up.

There are many mistakes in my attempts. I am trying to understand.

It's very very good, that you see your primary mistake. Just don't do it again.

It's a very common situation, when phasers get spontaneous separation if they don't do it when it is already possible. Of course, you could do it on the second cycle

It's a very common situation, when phasers get spontaneous separation if they don't do it when it is already possible.

Ohhh, that's why!  This is what I've been doing a lot lately.

My seminars would 50% more effective without this mistake. I talk about it a lot (DON'T LIE IN THE PHASE!!!), but novices can't get it in a few days anyway

Today I woke up in the morning at 7.30 and after exercise and breakfast went back to sleep 8.30am. with intention Indirect Tech.
After 30 to 40 minutes sleep I awoke and found myself wiggling my head side by side for approx 10 seconds. ( Here I made a mistake - I did't do anything and confused and started thinking : is this phase or not, shall I separate or not, did I slept for a long time or not ) and then I found my physical head was still, lying on the pillow.
But again I started to Separate by standing up w/o using muscles_nothing

Cycles: Phantom wiggling ( by using head)_sensation_but unable to separate
Visulizing hands_Sensation_did't separate

after 3 cycles I left the attempt and got up and wrote down the experience.
Now I have decided to next time I will separate immediately without thinking, confusing. I will just Separate with confidence by Standing up or rolling out.

There u go astralbeing, you're getting it.  Keep at it and you'll figure this stuff out.  I used to do the same phantom wiggling with my head, a lot!  It was back when I was still very new and I ruined every chance.  It's weird, but I don't get that much anymore.  I just wake up and I can feel the phase and I know I can separate.