Re: Contenteo's Conceptual Model of Consciousness

Rudolph · Post by **Rudolph** » Mon Feb 13, 2012 6:08 pm

Summerlander wrote: Rudolph,

Have you ever recreated the experiment yourself, repeated it and verified it as being strong evidence? No.

Yes! This happens in science all the time. You do not understand the vocabulary that you are trying to use. Take the cold fusion research for example. Many times it was repeated and sometimes with similar positive results and sometimes not. It was soon discovered that the purity of the core metal being used was a factor... and the science marches on...
It is nothing like what you seem to imagine.

[if you got a roomful of scientists and engineers together and one claimed to have rock solid incontrovertible "proof" of any sort of cutting edge experimentation going on, the room would burst out in laughter -- it would be considered a joke]

If you are comfortable with calling that "strong evidence" be my guest.

Yes, I am. Most scientists are. It is obvious that you do not understand the elementary principles involved.

Anyway, there are many claims out there which I find dubious and there are usually ulterior motives.

It is called junk science. Like the Global Warming scam.
If you are calling Dr. Tart a charlatan and are ready to defend your accusation, go ahead. Otherwise you are just muddying the waters to hide the fact that you don't know what you are talking about.

The only thing you should concern yourself with is your own experiences

And now you slide back into your presumptuous tone as though you know better than I do what I should concern myself with. How arrogant.

Post by **Summerlander** » Tue Feb 14, 2012 11:48 pm

Well, I certainly don't know what you are talking about, Rudolph. Anyway, there is no need to be aggressive just because my views don't agree with yours. Try to keep a good atmosphere in this site like you suggested to me. So be civil please.

Rudolph · Post by **Rudolph** » Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:45 am

Summerlander wrote: Well, I certainly don't know what you are talking about, Rudolph. Anyway, there is no need to be aggressive just because my views don't agree with yours. Try to keep a good atmosphere in this site like you suggested to me. So be civil please.

No need for *me* to be aggressive?

hahahaha

You are the one who deleted an innocent comment of mine and made a big RED LETTER WARNING to me and then deleted my reply and now you dare to play this game with me?!

What a giant phoney you are.

Put my innocent comment back and ask the readers here if your ridiculous reaction was justified.

Do that.

You are totally out to lunch Summerlander.

"Try to keep a good atmosphere in this site like you suggested to me."

I made no such suggestion to you Summerlander.
Once again, the deception and falsehood just oozes from your pores.

Post by **Summerlander** » Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:24 pm

Rudolph,

You are making a big spectacle of yourself. The readers can see for themselves that you have continued with your insults and personal attacks. To be fair, I don't think anyone cares about what was said.

Michael Raduga has already seen your PMs to me including the one where you say you could break me if you wanted to but that you won't do it out of respect for this site and to keep a good atmosphere.

Calling me names won't help your situation. You are out of control. Try to be a little more polite and I might indulge in re-adding your post as it was if the site owner approves. I have asked you to PM me if you had any problems but instead you have chosen to continue to make a mountain out of a molehill.

Let it go, Rudolph. You are not doing yourself any favours. If you continue down this path I am going to have to ignore you until you have calmed down and are prepared to deal with whatever's bothering you like an adult. Find inner peace. Perhaps discussing Contenteo's conceptual model will help you take your mind off your inner struggles and let bygones be bygones.

The ball is in your court.

Rudolph · Post by **Rudolph** » Wed Feb 15, 2012 4:24 pm

Summer, it is not so much name calling as it is a descriptive term. It is phoney to delete a post that is not offensive because of your own emotional insecurity.

Then you falsely accuse in a long warning based on nonsense.

Then you delete the post I made in my defense and again falsely accuse me of something that was not said in that post.

Then you (true to form) put words in my mouth posting to the open forum something I never said.

So you misrepresent me and then delete my posts in self defense.
Deception really does pour out of you. Especially when you decide to attack someone who makes you feel insecure.

I have been posting here for a looonnng time with no trouble at all until *you* got mod Power and then almost immediately attacked me over nothing.

But in your mind *I* am the one who is outta control.

It is nutz.

[oh, and you don't think anyone cares?... what's that over there?... looks like you have picked up multiple karma/SMITE hits recently. And they did not come from me. I have never 'smited anyone'. So there once again... you continue to make false claims and false assessments and false accusations.]

[and then you suggest, "Perhaps discussing Contenteo's conceptual model will help you take your mind off your inner struggles". But there is no longer any point in that, is there? The Original poster who started that discussion has left the building citing intractable forum leadership or something like that? remember?]

Summerlander wrote: Rudolph,

You are making a big spectacle of yourself. The readers can see for themselves that you have continued with your insults and personal attacks. To be fair, I don't think anyone cares about what was said.

Michael Raduga has already seen your PMs to me including the one where you say you could break me if you wanted to but that you won't do it out of respect for this site and to keep a good atmosphere.

Calling me names won't help your situation. You are out of control. Try to be a little more polite and I might indulge in re-adding your post as it was if the site owner approves. I have asked you to PM me if you had any problems but instead you have chosen to continue to make a mountain out of a molehill.

Let it go, Rudolph. You are not doing yourself any favours. If you continue down this path I am going to have to ignore you until you have calmed down and are prepared to deal with whatever's bothering you like an adult. Find inner peace. Perhaps discussing Contenteo's conceptual model will help you take your mind off your inner struggles and let bygones be bygones.

The ball is in your court.

Post by **Summerlander** » Fri Feb 17, 2012 3:56 am

Ok, Rudolph. I am completely in the wrong and you are absolutely right. Can we move on now?

Rudolph · Post by **Rudolph** » Fri Feb 17, 2012 5:10 pm

Summerlander wrote: Ok, Rudolph. I am completely in the wrong and you are absolutely right. Can we move on now?

Maybe its just me, but that seems to be lacking in sincerity.

I'm not feeling the love.

You are free to do whatever you want, Summer.

Adios muchacho.

Phanes · Post by **Phanes** » Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:06 pm

I don't see there being many levels but more of another world when it comes to the phase/realm. I mean there's many different realities depending on how the person treats the place and how they behave. Not much different from our own world but of course with some drastic additions.

Post by **Summerlander** » Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:32 pm

That is a pretty valid observation, Phanes. At the end of the day, people make up their minds about what they experience based on the way they approach and interpret the phase phenomenon.

I certainly don't think there are "highers" or "lowers". That view seems to carry religious/spiritual connotations that pretend the human mind is as simple as everyone agreeing on what's good and bad. We all know that one man's idea of heaven can be another man's hell.